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action or later. Please see Debugging in WordPress for more information. (This message was added in version 6.7.0.) in /home/studyfoxx/public_html/proactivetraining.com.au/news/wp-includes/functions.php on line 6121The Mackenzie Institute\u2019s latest paper, by Tom Karmel, explores whether pre-apprenticeships and other forms of pre-vocational education are worth the effort.<\/p>\n
As a preparation and taster of a particular occupation pre-voc. courses make sense. But because of the large number of Cert I and II qualifications that\u00a0might<\/u>\u00a0have at least some vocational focus it\u2019s easiest to keep things focused on the trades. That\u2019s where the concept is clearest, and that\u2019s what the paper does.<\/p>\nWhat did Tom find?<\/h2>\n
The paper, entitled \u201cThe efficacy of pre-apprenticeships<\/a>\u201d was released in September this year. It uses NCVER data, especially the Apprentice and Trainee Experience and Destination Survey. Using this survey has some drawbacks Tom points out, but it\u2019s the best information currently available.<\/p>\n Tom suggests that there is evidence of the value of pre-voc. programs, but it\u2019s very thin he thinks. There is evidence of their value in improving \u201cthe probability of getting an apprenticeship from undertaking a pre-apprenticeship but still around three quarters of those undertaking a pre-apprenticeship did not go on to an apprenticeship.\u201d<\/p>\n On the other hand, \u201cthose undertaking pre-vocational training which is assessed as not being highly relevant report lower levels of satisfaction and lower completion rates than their peers who undertook no pre-vocational training.\u201d \u00a0However,<\/p>\n \u201cthose who had undertaken highly relevant pre-vocational training reported higher levels of satisfaction and higher completion rates than those who had not undertaken any pre-vocational training. This provides firm evidence that pre-vocational training can be of benefit.\u201d<\/p>\n There are also effects by occupation, he found. But he believes it is clear that \u201cthe programs need to be well designed to have a positive effect.\u201d They have to be\u00a0relevant<\/u>.<\/p>\n He took a look at equity issues too, as the thought was that this may provide a pathway into the trades for those experiencing some disadvantage. He concludes, though, that \u201cpre-vocational training is not particularly focused on those from a disadvantaged background.\u201d Nor does it appear to work well for them as he reports that \u201ctheir satisfaction levels and completion rates are lower for those who have undertaken highly relevant pre-vocational training.\u201d It does seem to work for those \u201cwho left school at year 11 and those who live in regional areas.\u201d Both these groups \u201cshow higher than average levels of satisfaction if they had undertaken highly relevant pre-vocational training.\u201d<\/p>\n The problem, as he sees it, is that the data we are collecting is not good enough. It needs to be \u2018comprehensive and coherent\u2019, he suggests.<\/p>\n He thinks:<\/p>\n \u201cwe need to (1) append a flag to the relevant courses and (2) identify an apprenticeship or traineeship as a possible outcome in the annual student destination survey. In the absence of the data it is not possible to evaluate its effectiveness and there is every chance that governments are not getting value for money from these programs. Just because the idea of a pre-apprenticeship or pre-traineeship sounds good does not mean that it is good.\u201d<\/p>\n We also need to be clearer about the purposes of such programs. And here, I think, he has hit the nail on the head. One of the issues is, however, that we are trying to be very clear about outcomes of programs when these are often not that clear. Nor are we necessarily gathering all the information we need. This means we can be undeservedly \u2018dudding\u2019 these lower level programs because we are not clear on their purposes and not measuring their outcomes fairly. Rather than being truly pre-vocational as Tom is describing them they are actually \u2018pre\u2019 pre-vocational or enabling programs which are giving students in them, hopefully, the tools they need to succeed down the track. It gets back to quality of the programs, and the immediacy of their relevance to a vocation.<\/p>\n His conclusion is a fair one I think. Tom argues that:<\/p>\n \u201cwe have a choice. On one hand we could get serious about training designed to get people apprenticeships or traineeship, put a proper effort into designing its structure and content, and ensure that it is properly included in the national VET statistical systems. On the other hand, we could forget about pre-apprenticeships and pre-traineeships, despite their political attraction, and worry about the role and design of lower level vocational training as a whole.\u201d<\/p>\n Are pre-apprenticeships worthwhile?<\/a> | VDC<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" The Mackenzie Institute\u2019s latest paper, by Tom Karmel, explores whether pre-apprenticeships and other forms of pre-vocational education are worth the effort. As a preparation and taster of a particular occupation pre-voc. courses make sense. 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